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PuzzledMidget
05-24-2011, 09:12 AM
New user to Kies but having trouble with my music library.

PuzzledMidget
05-24-2011, 09:18 AM
Yay managed to muck that post up already,

I have my music organized through iTunes and everything has all the info in iTunes however when i got my S2 home installed Kies and the autoscan had finished the majority of my music didnt have any Album info or Artist info so when i sync/transfer to my phone i end up with 1400 songs under <unknown>. I have tried edit the info through properties and all the fields are greyed out and i cannot edit them. This has prob been answered before but i couldnt find it so sorry if it is a repost. just want my music organised on my phone. Is there a simple way to do this without a third party app???

tiptronic
05-24-2011, 11:25 AM
I don't use ITune myself but have your tried doubleTwist? check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHxm_FNbdRg

MixZing also has Music ID identifies feature, it might worth a try if you already have the music in your phone. https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mixzing.basic&feature=search_result

Edit: Just notice that you are looking for a solution without any 3rd party app, in that case I don't know any, sorry.

PuzzledMidget
05-24-2011, 04:12 PM
thanks for the reply, you would think that a flagship phone like a s2 would be supported with good software or at least give me the option to use it as a external drive!
note; i have tried exploring the drive and dragging the music direct to the phone but it will not arrange it, my blackberry never had this problem!

mark22
05-24-2011, 04:50 PM
It can be used as an external drive. Just turn on usb debugging (settings>applications>development) and when you plug it in a notification should appear and you can then connect usb storage.

PuzzledMidget
05-24-2011, 05:00 PM
thanks for that answer, one problem done!
yet after transferring music folders it still turns up as <unknown>
Any ideas? As i dont understand why it wouldnt put the artist and album names in as that is how they are named on the pc.

mark22
05-24-2011, 05:56 PM
Are the music files actually tagged with the details or is it just the file name? Maybe you need to run them through a batch tagger?

I imagine you have got tagged files, any you download should be just thinking out loud.

homebrandcola
05-29-2011, 02:04 PM
This is a common issue. Reported a number of places.

Even if you use Mass Storage to copy the files (or DoubleTwist, or WinAMP) the phone wont recognise the artists from M4A / MP4 / AAC files. It plays just fine, but wont read the tag correctly. It is an issue with the underlying system / media library. All media players that use the built-in media library don't work correctly.

I really hope Samsung fix it soon, I have no idea how they could put out a phone with this broken on it. Just doesn't make sense.

Ben Carron
05-30-2011, 03:27 AM
It won't let me post a new thread but I have a problem with Kies too :(

I'm trying to update my SGS II to the latest KE4 firmware, I've yet to update it since getting it when it was released in the UK.
The problem is whenever I run Kies Air via a browser there's no option to upgrade.
Whenever I try the PC app and have the phone connected via USB everything works fine until I try to update, I get past the backup stage and then it initiates the update sequence then tells me "insufficient space available for update, requires 3000mb"
However my phone has 7GB free, my SD card has 5GB free and my computer hard-drive where Kies is installed (not C drive) has 10+ GB free... so I'm not sure where it thinks has insufficent storage space.
Also why does it need a whopping 3000mb? Seems insanely big for an update file to need that much.


I love my Samsung galaxy S2 but I really want to update it to get the minor features/improvements it adds

any help appreciated.

John Hopper
06-10-2011, 08:50 PM
Hi, I've just joined this forum, having had my SGS2 for 2 days. In most respects, I love it, but I am having a major problem with music.

I have some 3800 audio tracks on my SD card. On my previous phone (HTC Desire) these were organised neatly into albums and artists both on the stock music player and on Power Amp.

Having got my SGS2 and installed my SD card, 3400 of my tracks are now listed as by an unknown artist in the list view, so they do no sort into artists and albums. This is the case in the stock music player, music hub and in Power Amp. In Power Amp, when I go into an individual track, the details are all there, so if I want to play a shuffle of all my music, that is no problem. But I cannot play a specific album or all of a specific artist's tracks. However, in the stock music application, they are unknown even if I go into each one.

This is extremely annoying as it severely reduces the usefulness of the phone as a music player, unless I just wanted random selections. Yet it all worked fine on the HTC, so I don't think it's a Power Amp problem (I contacted the developer and he said a solution would be forthcoming in a future update, but I am not sure I really understood his email). My SD card must be okay as the information shows up in Power Amp in the "all songs" option. So I think it is a Samsung problem. If I had known about this, I might very well have not decided to upgrade to this phone.

Surely, surely, there must be a solution?

thanks, John

John Hopper
06-10-2011, 08:51 PM
Hi, I've just joined this forum, having had my SGS2 for 2 days. In most respects, I love it, but I am having a major problem with music.

I have some 3800 audio tracks on my SD card. On my previous phone (HTC Desire) these were organised neatly into albums and artists both on the stock music player and on Power Amp.

Having got my SGS2 and installed my SD card, 3400 of my tracks are now listed as by an unknown artist in the list view, so they do no sort into artists and albums. This is the case in the stock music player, music hub and in Power Amp. In Power Amp, when I go into an individual track, the details are all there, so if I want to play a shuffle of all my music, that is no problem. But I cannot play a specific album or all of a specific artist's tracks. However, in the stock music application, they are unknown even if I go into each one.

This is extremely annoying as it severely reduces the usefulness of the phone as a music player, unless I just wanted random selections. Yet it all worked fine on the HTC, so I don't think it's a Power Amp problem (I contacted the developer and he said a solution would be forthcoming in a future update, but I am not sure I really understood his email). My SD card must be okay as the information shows up in Power Amp in the "all songs" option. So I think it is a Samsung problem. If I had known about this, I might very well have not decided to upgrade to this phone.

Surely, surely, there must be a solution?

thanks, John

PuzzledMidget
06-13-2011, 10:24 PM
I HAVE AN ANSWER!!!!
this has solved my original problem when transferring from iTunes. As previously mention the S2 wont organise M4A files etc so the answer is to convert them to a MP3. I did this in iTunes itself under advanced tab just selected ALL my files and created a MP3 version of them. Then i imported all of those into the wonderful piece of software called Kies and finally MANUALLY tidied up the library and finally transferred them to my S2. YAY!!!!!!!!!!

As for your issue with your SD card john i have no ideas im sorry i hope you get an answer soon. My SD card that was in my Blackberry 8900 worked fine in the S2 as in it organised the files correctly but cannot tell you why it did and your Desires SD card hasnt. Sorry.

PuzzledMidget
06-13-2011, 10:25 PM
I HAVE AN ANSWER!!!!
this has solved my original problem when transferring from iTunes. As previously mention the S2 wont organise M4A files etc so the answer is to convert them to a MP3. I did this in iTunes itself under advanced tab just selected ALL my files and created a MP3 version of them. Then i imported all of those into the wonderful piece of software called Kies and finally MANUALLY tidied up the library and finally transferred them to my S2. YAY!!!!!!!!!!

As for your issue with your SD card john i have no ideas im sorry i hope you get an answer soon. My SD card that was in my Blackberry 8900 worked fine in the S2 as in it organised the files correctly but cannot tell you why it did and your Desires SD card hasnt. Sorry.

PuzzledMidget
06-13-2011, 10:25 PM
sorry for the double post

John Hopper
06-19-2011, 03:09 PM
Thanks, PuzzledMidget. My earlier post was duplicated as well, not quite sure.

Having looked into this further, I also found that the tracks that had been recognised properly were MP3s and the ones that hadn't were M4As. I checked a few of each anyway and this pattern was consistent, so I thought it must be that. I didn't see how to convert them, but will look again, following your helpful advice. How long did it take to do all this and how much manual tinkering did you need to do to get everything shipshape?

I will try it with a few songs from different albums first and see if they are recognised and sort themselves properly.

Strange about this issue of not recognising M4As. I understand from a friend who has the original Samsung Galaxy that that phone did not have this issue (unless her tracks were all MP3s already).

Thanks again.

John

John Hopper
06-19-2011, 04:13 PM
But I agree with HomeBrandCola that Samsung should really sort this issue out themselves through a system update. It really does not make sense for Samsung's flagship phone, regarded by many as the best in the world right now, to have a fairly glaring issue like this.

My music player of choice is PowerAmp. The developer tells me that v2.0 of that will use its own scanning mechanism to get round this issue, so the choices appear to be:

(a) wait for PowerAmp 2.0
(b) wait for a Samsung update
(c) mass convert M4As.

I suppose another theoretical solution is to identify a music player that already uses its own scanning mechanism, if there is one? It would have to be pretty damned good to be better than PowerAmp all round, though, which I think is brilliant.

John

John Hopper
06-19-2011, 06:10 PM
PuzzledMidget

Could I trouble you to detail exactly what you did in iTunes to create MP3 versions of your tracks, please? I am looking at the advanced tab and I cannot see an option to do what you describe. The only option is to create AAC versions, for those tracks that are not already AAC. I have the latest version of iTunes updated this afternoon.

Many thanks

John

John Hopper
06-19-2011, 08:54 PM
ANOTHER SOLUTION!!

I googled the problem and found on androidforums.com a reference to a free app called MediaFix. I just downloaded and run this app and it works!! The tagging has succeeded and the songs have all been assigned to the correct artists and albums. It's very fast - the c3400 tracks all retagged themselves in 2-3 minutes.

I am so relieved that I haven't had to employ a more long-winded solution.

Thanks to folk for their advice.

kedi1986
06-20-2011, 07:10 PM
mediafix worked for me, i had the exact same problem, luckily i only had 365 songs but within seconds it has sorted out the phone. thanks so much!!

John Hopper
06-20-2011, 08:18 PM
kedi1986 - glad to have found a solution that has helped :)